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    Home » All Recipes » Pizza

    Grandma Pizza

    Published on Aug 1, 2021 by Jim · Updated on Mar 15, 2023 · As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. · 91 Comments

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    The Grandma pizza is my favorite pizza to make and once you see how easy it is, it will become yours as well.  Created at Umberto's of New Hyde Park in Nassau County, Long Island, this amazing pizza can now be found in most of the New York metro area.  Everything you've ever wanted to know about the technique and ingredients needed to create the perfect Grandma pizza is below. 

    Slice of Grandma pizza in white plate with full pie below.

    Table Of Contents hide
    1 What is Grandma pizza?
    2 Where did Grandma pizza come from?
    3 How to make the dough
    4 How to make the best Grandma pizza
    5 What type of pan for Grandma Pizza?
    6 Oven temperature and placement
    7 Making Grandma pizza dough in a Kitchen Aid mixer
    8 More New York pizzeria specialties
    9 Grandma Pizza

    What is Grandma pizza?

    Grandma pizza is unique and quite different from the ubiquitous traditional New York pizza.

    It is a fairly thin sheet-pan pizza that's baked in a pan that has been heavily coated with olive oil.  This creates the perfect environment to fry the bottom of the pizza giving Grandma pizza that unmistakable crunch!

    Grandma pizza contains sliced mozzarella cheese and randomly scattered thick plum tomatoes on top. 

    Kind of like an upside-down pie.

    It's almost always drizzled with a heavy dose of garlic-infused olive oil and finished with some Sicilian oregano and Pecorino Romano cheese.

    Just talking about it makes me want to make one right now!

     

    Where did Grandma pizza come from?

    The Grandma pie was created on Long Island at Umberto's of New Hyde Park.  Its popularity soared in the 2000s and onward in the New York metro area. 

    Fun fact:  Umberto's would often make special deliveries for the New York Giants and Yankees.  I'm sure the Mets and Jets like it too. 😉

    Though the Grandma pie isn't quite as well known as a traditional New York pizza or a New York Sicilian, it's still very well known amongst New Yorkers.   

    Some of the more popular places amongst the hipster crowd will create their own names for the style, but basically, it's a thin sheet pan pizza. 

    Just like the one your Nonna would make.

    Ingredients shown: Locatelli Pecorino Romano, San Marzano tomatoes, mozzarella cheese, olive oil, garlic, and Sicilian oregano.

    How to make the dough

    Each number corresponds to the numbered written steps below.

    Note: Mass measurements will always be more accurate than volume measurements.  For doughs and bread, this is a good thing, because it provides absolute consistency.  I only use mass measurements for baking/dough recipes and always stick to standard cups, tablespoons, etc. when "cooking".  But, I also provide the volume (standard U.S. customary) measurements here and in the recipe card below.

    Bakers Percentages: 64% hydration, .4% yeast, 2% salt, 3.4% oil, 1.2% sugar

    Note:  Baker's percentages will allow you to scale the dough amount up or down depending on how much you need.  To use baker's percentages you simply divide the amount of flour in a recipe by 100 and then multiply that number by the percentages listed above.

    1. Weigh out or measure 406 grams (3.25 cups) of bread flour, 2 grams (½ teaspoon) of instant yeast, 8 grams (1.5 teaspoons) of fine sea salt, and 4 grams (1 teaspoon) of sugar and combine into a large bowl. 
    2. Mix the dry ingredients together.

    Grandma pizza recipe process shot collage group number one.

    1. Pour 9 ounces of cold water into another large bowl.  Slowly add the dry ingredients to the water and mix together.
    2. Pour 14 grams or 1 tablespoon of olive oil all over the dough and continue to mix well to incorporate all of the ingredients.
    3. Place the dough onto a large work surface (a plastic cutting board or granite/marble countertop work best) and begin kneading. To knead, you want to fold the dough over and press down and away on the cutting board with a bit of force.  Turn the dough 90 degrees and repeat.  Knead for at least 5 minutes.  If the dough becomes too sticky, cover it for 30 minutes with plastic or an inverted clean bowl and let the dough warm up.  Return to kneading (just make sure to knead for at least 5 minutes total) and then form a dough ball.
    4. You do not need a perfect dough ball for Grandma pizza so don't go crazy.  To form the ball, fold the dough tight and create a seam.  Rotate the dough and fold again.  Do this 20 times, then pinch the seam side.  Place the dough ball seam side down in an oiled container and cover with plastic wrap.  Refrigerate the dough for at least 12 hours to cold ferment.  Do 24-48 hours if you can plan ahead.

    Grandma pizza recipe process shot collage group number two.

    1. Remove the dough 2 hours prior to use to warm up.  Oil the sheet pan with a ⅜ cup of olive oil.  You need plenty of oil.  Remove the dough and place it into the oiled pan.  Using your fingers press down and try to stretch the dough into the pan.  You will not be able to do this right away.
    2. Cover the sheet pan with plastic wrap and wait 45 minutes, before returning to stretch the dough.  Depending on how warm the dough is, you might need to repeat the process one more time to completely fill the pan.

    How to make the best Grandma pizza

    Each number corresponds to the numbered written steps below.

    1. Hand crush 1 (28 ounce) can of whole San Marzano or other good quality plum tomatoes in a large bowl.
    2. After hand crushing, strain the tomatoes and save the juice for another purpose.  You want to be left with thick tomato pulp with minimal juice.  Season the tomatoes with a ½ teaspoon of Kosher salt, mix well, and set aside.

    Recipe process shot collage group number three.

    1. Combine 3 tablespoons of olive oil with 3 cloves of minced garlic in a small bowl to create the garlic oil.
    2. Preheat the oven to 450f and set the rack to the lowest level.  Here I am stretching the dough again.  Be sure to keep it covered with plastic after stretching.
    3. I highly recommend buying sliced mozzarella cheese at your local deli or supermarket.  If not using already sliced mozzarella, a partially frozen block of cheese is easier to slice.  You'll need 12-16 ounces of sliced mozzarella.  The exact weight isn't as important as covering the dough.
    4. Now that the dough has filled the pan almost completely, we can move on to assembly and cooking.

    Recipe process shot collage group number four.

    1. In pic 7 above I am pinning a corner with my hands then placing the cheese down and applying light pressure.  This will lock in the corners and prevent them from moving too much.  Layer the remaining cheese in an overlapping shingle pattern, leaving about a ¼" around the edges.
    2. Distribute the tomatoes all over the cheese in a random pattern.  Resist the urge to over sauce.  The tomatoes will spread out during the cooking and will create the characteristic Grandma pizza pattern.
    3. Drizzle a couple of tablespoons of garlic oil all over the pizza.  If you love garlic, use more.  Bake the pizza in the oven on the lowest rack for 12 minutes, rotating 180 degrees after 6 minutes.  After 12 minutes check the bottom of the pizza with a spatula.  If the pizza is nice and brown, move it to the top oven rack and cook for 6 more minutes. 
    4. Remove the pizza from the oven at 18 minutes.  Sprinkle a few tablespoons of Pecorino Romano cheese all over the pizza. 

    Grandma pizza recipe process shot collage group number 5.

    1. Sprinkle ½ to 1 teaspoon of oregano on the pizza.  In pic 11 I'm using Sicilian oregano and crumbling it in my hands.  Return the pizza to the top rack and cook for 2 more minutes.  Additionally, if the Grandma pizza is not crisp enough on top, broil for 30-60 seconds but watch carefully.  Normally the pizza does not need to be broiled.
    2. Here is your perfect Grandma pizza.  

    Overhead shot of pan pizza.

    That is how to make the real-deal, New York Grandma pizza.  It is the easiest of the 3 types of New York pizza - the hardest part is waiting for the dough to cold ferment, but it is worth it!

    What type of pan for Grandma Pizza?

    Many pizza shops use heavy steel pans for their Sicilian and Grandma pies.  They are cooking their pies in a deck oven which browns the bottom quicker.   Most home cooks can't replicate this, though if you have a baking or pizza steel as large as your pan you could try.

    If you were to attempt to make this Grandma pizza in a thick steel or cast iron pan in your home oven, the bottom wouldn't get brown enough in time.

    For this reason, I recommend using an aluminum pan on the bottom of your oven.  If anything, you'll have to worry more about the bottom burning.  An aluminum pan is thin and will crisp the bottom of the pizza very quickly on the lowest level of the oven. 

    A dark aluminum pan like the one seen throughout my pictures works amazingly well.  It's a LloydPans 16 x 12" Grandma pan.

    You can also use a standard 18 x 13 half-sheet pan with great results.

    Crisp bottom of Grandma pizza held in hands.

    The perfect crispy bottom to a slice of Grandma pizza.

    Oven temperature and placement

    Now you know the type of pan, but what about the oven?

    I cook all of my pizzas in a standard 20-year-old GE oven.  I have not tested this pizza using a convection oven, so you may need to adjust the cooking time, oven temperature levels, and of course pan placement.

    Note:  Many experts state that convection adds 20-25F degrees to recipes that call for a conventional oven.  

    As mentioned above in the detailed steps you should check the bottom of the pizza after 12 minutes of cooking.  If the bottom is very blond, finish cooking it on the bottom rack for the remaining 8 minutes.   

    If you're having problems with browning, you could pour 3 more tablespoons of olive oil under the pizza.  Grandma pizza uses a lot of olive oil!

    Inevitably, the temperature of all ovens fluctuates.  Your oven is not my oven, and so on.  You may need to play around with the placement and temperatures a bit, but I'm confident that with these instructions you'll be able to make a Grandma pizza that looks just like mine.

    Making Grandma pizza dough in a Kitchen Aid mixer

    I've shown the process here and on YouTube, (for more pizza check out the 20 pizza videos on my channel) using hand mixing.

    Why?  Because I like to show without special equipment.  But if you want to use your mixer all you have to do is:

    1. Mix dry ingredients in a large bowl and place half of them and all the water into the Kitchen Aid mixer bowl.
    2. With the dough hook attached, mix for 1 minute on low (speed level 1) and begin adding in the remaining dry ingredients.
    3. Drizzle the olive oil into the mixing bowl and continue at speed level 1 for 4 more minutes or until the dough is sticking well to the bread hook.
    4. Remove the dough, hand knead for 1 minute and cover for 40 minutes.  After 40 minutes, ball the dough, place it in an oiled proofing container and get it in the fridge for at least 12 hours.  Simple!

    Grandma pizza slice held in hands.

    More New York pizzeria specialties

    • Homemade New York pizza - This is the largest and most comprehensive post on this site regarding pizza.
    • New York Sicilian pizza - Thick airy crust with mozzarella, Pecorino, and Sicilian oregano.
    • Vodka sauce pizza - Grandma style with vodka sauce.
    • Pepperoni pizza - Sheet pan pizza with cupping pepperoni, Calabrian chili paste, mozzarella, and Pecorino.
    • New York white pizza - Mozzarella, ricotta, a touch of Pecorino Romano, and garlic.
    • Garlic knots - Classic knots with garlic oil and butter, Pecorino Romano, hot pepper, and parsley.
    • Cast iron pan pizza - pizza dough topped with tomato, mozzarella, Pecorino, garlic oil, and oregano and baked in a cast iron pan until crisp.
    • Pepperoni pinwheels - Pepperoni, ham, and mozzarella rolls - a perfect Grandma pizza addition.

    If you’ve enjoyed this Grandma pizza recipe or any recipe on this site, we want to know so tell us in the comments below. 

    We would love to hear how you did and it’s nice to show others as well.  Thanks!

    Watch the video below where Jim will show you how to make this recipe with easy-to-follow instructions. 

    Some people learn by watching.  If you're that type of person, you can find most of our recipes on YouTube and our Facebook Page.

    Grandma pizza slice in white plate featured image.

    Grandma Pizza

    5 from 26 votes
    Prep Time: 3 hrs
    Cook Time: 20 mins
    Cold fermenting time: 1 d
    Total Time: 1 d 3 hrs 20 mins
    Servings: 9 pieces
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    Author: James

    Ingredients

    For the dough

    • 406 grams bread flour or 3 ¼ cups
    • 2 grams instant yeast or half teaspoon
    • 8 grams fine sea salt or 1 ½ teaspoons
    • 4 grams sugar or 1 teaspoon
    • 260 grams cold water 9 ounces
    • 14 grams olive oil or 1 tablespoon

    For the Grandma pizza

    • 1 ~24 ounce dough ball from above
    • 1 28 ounce can San Marzano plum tomatoes hand crushed and completely drained of liquid
    • 12-16 ounces sliced mozzarella cheese weight will vary, but use enough to cover the pizza completely
    • 3 tablespoons Pecorino Romano grated
    • ¾ cup olive oil divided
    • 3 cloves garlic minced
    • ½ teaspoon kosher salt
    • 1 teaspoon Sicilian oregano or Italian

    Instructions

    For the dough

    • Place water in a bowl large enough to hold both the water and all the dry ingredients and still have room to spare. Mix together dry ingredients in another bowl.
    • Add dry ingredients to water a bit at a time and mix thoroughly to form a dry rough mass.
    • Pour the oil over the dough, mix again to scrape off any dough residue stuck to side of the bowl, and place the rough shaggy dough onto a work surface.
    • Knead the dough for 5-7 minutes.  If the dough is too sticky, place a clean bowl inverted over the dough and wait 30 minutes before resuming.  Return to kneading (just make sure to knead for at least a total of 5 minutes).
    • Place the bowl over the dough once more and let sit for 30-40 minutes to warm up before forming the dough ball.
    • After 40 minutes pull the dough towards its end repeatedly to form a smooth ball.  Pinch the seam side and place the dough ball seam side down into an oiled bowl and cover tightly with plastic wrap.  Refrigerate for at least 12 hours before using. 

    For the Grandma pizza

    • Take the dough out of the fridge 2 hours prior to using. Do not uncover the bowl. Oil the bottom of a 12 by 16 sheet pan (or standard half sheet pan) with ⅜'s cup of olive oil. You need to use a lot of oil!
    • Remove the dough from the bowl and place it into the pan. With your fingertips begin pressing the dough into the corners of the pan. You will not be able to do this in one attempt.  Place plastic over the pan and let the dough warm up. 
    • After 45 minutes remove the plastic and try to stretch it again to the size of the pan.  Cover with plastic wrap and repeat process one more time until the dough has completely filled the pan.  Cover the dough one more time and set aside.  Preheat oven to 450f and set one rack to the lowest level of the oven and one to the highest.
    • Hand crush the plum tomatoes and drain the juice.  Save the juice for another use.  Add a ½ teaspoon of kosher salt to the tomatoes and set aside.
    • Mince the garlic and add to a bowl with a ¼ cup of olive oil.
    • Remove the plastic from the pan and if required press the dough into the edges.  Right away layer the mozzarella cheese in an overlapping shingle pattern, leaving the outside ¼ to ½ inch uncovered.  Start with a corner.  By pressing the dough down slightly you can lock the dough into the corner.  Make sure the dough is layered completely with the mozzarella slices. 
    • Next, add the drained plum tomatoes to the pizza.  You can use 45 degree lines or spoon the sauce all over.  Leave some open areas.  Don’t coat it all.  Take the garlic oil and drizzle 3 tablespoons of the oil and garlic pieces all over the pizza.
    • Place the pizza onto the lowest rack and cook for 12 minutes rotating the pan 180 degrees after 6 minutes. 
    • After 12 minutes remove the pizza from oven and check the bottom for browning. If the pizza is well-browned, bake on top rack for 6 more minutes. Otherwise, leave the pizza on the bottom rack for 6 more minutes.
    • After 18 minutes of baking remove the pizza and sprinkle with the oregano and Pecorino Romano cheese. Bake for 2 minutes more on top oven rack.
    • If the Grandma pizza is not crisp enough on top, you can broil for 30-60 seconds.  Watch very carefully though!
    • The total cooking time will be approximately 20-22 minutes.  Let the pizza sit for 5 minutes before cutting and serving.  Enjoy!

    Notes

    • The dough can be cold fermented for as little as 12 hours in the fridge, to as long as 72 hours.
    • If refrigerating the dough ball in a metal bowl use a bit more oil to coat.  The metal bowls tend to stick more than plastic.
    • Cooking time will vary depending on the exact oven temp.  After 12 minutes of cooking on the lowest rack the pizza should be very brown and crisp.  If it's completely blond the pizza should be cooked for the remaining 8-10 minutes on the lowest rack.
    • The Grandma pizza needs a lot of oil.  More than you think!  The oil helps develop the amazing crispy bottom, so please use enough of it.
    • Leftovers can be saved for up to 3 days and the pizza can be reheated at 350f on a parchment paper-lined baking sheet until hot.  About 10 minutes.
    Bakers Percentages: 64% hydration, .4% yeast, 2% salt, 3.4% oil, 1.2% sugar
    Thickness Factor (TF): .127

    Nutrition

    Calories: 424kcal | Carbohydrates: 37.5g | Protein: 14.4g | Fat: 24.3g | Saturated Fat: 8.3g | Cholesterol: 36mg | Sodium: 734mg | Potassium: 77mg | Fiber: 1.6g | Sugar: 2.2g | Calcium: 263mg | Iron: 2mg
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    1. MZ

      October 09, 2021 at 9:37 pm

      Hello! Very excited to have found your site! I just made 4 dough balls of your NY pizza recipe! Can I use that to make the grandma pie? Or is the dough different?

      Thank you!!

      Reply
      • Jim

        October 10, 2021 at 9:14 pm

        Thank you! All my pizza dough uses the same recipe. You can use two of the 12-ounce dough balls from the NY pizza recipe and combine them for one 24 ounce dough ball which will be enough for this recipe. You can ball them together and cover for an hour, then take that larger ball and start the normal stretching procedure. Hope that makes sense.

        Reply
      • John

        February 07, 2023 at 11:46 am

        5 stars
        Hi Jim….

        Tried the grandmas pie recipe this past weekend. Really great recipe, my entire family enjoyed it. The dough (cold fermented for 48 hrs) was outstanding. Thank you!

        I have a question, as I typically entertain about 10-12 guests on the weekends for sports or game nights etc..and I would love to make this for them… however, I’m curious as to what you would recommend for heating/reheating as I don’t want to have to wait 20 mins for each pie to be ready while my guests are here. I’d prefer to make them during the day and then heat them all together at night. I have a typical oven (GE profile) so- just looking for advice? Should I par bake them and then finish off?
        Thanks again…

        Reply
        • Jim

          February 07, 2023 at 2:59 pm

          Hi John, so happy to hear you enjoyed the grandma pizza! You can make the pizzas ahead of time and just reheat in the oven at 350f when you're ready to serve.

          Reply
    2. Chris W.

      December 20, 2021 at 4:42 am

      Do you use regular pure olive oil for the garlic oil, or do you use EVOO?

      Reply
      • Jim

        December 20, 2021 at 10:01 pm

        Hi Chris. I recommend regular olive oil and not extra virgin for when making any type of NY pizza.

        Reply
    3. Mike Clinco

      January 07, 2022 at 2:36 pm

      5 stars
      Hi Jim,I have a 12X16 and a 10X14 sheet pan and would like to make the smaller
      Hi Jim,
      I have a 12X16 and 10X14 sheet pan and would like to make the smaller Grandma Pizza.
      How many ounces would my dough ball be?

      Thanks for all the great recipes and videos!

      Mike Clinco

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 08, 2022 at 3:21 pm

        Hi Mike. 16 ounces would be a perfect amount for that size pan. Hope you enjoy it and thanks for liking the videos!

        Reply
        • Mike Clinco

          May 05, 2022 at 3:55 pm

          Jim, I want to bring a grandma pie to some friends house. What’s the best way to reheat the pizza? And should I leave it in the 12 x 16 pan? Thanks so much. Your Recipes are spot on!

          Reply
          • Jim

            May 05, 2022 at 4:26 pm

            Hi Mike, glad you're enjoying the recipes. After you make the pie, remove it from the pan and let it cool on a wire rack. After it cools you can put it back in the pan to transport it to your friend's house. Then reheat at 350f until warm.

            Reply
        • Lisa

          November 26, 2022 at 3:52 pm

          Hello! Can i use a kitchen aid with dough hook instead of hand kneading?

          Reply
          • Jim

            November 27, 2022 at 12:00 am

            Hi Lisa, yes, please refer to the section in this post titled "Making Grandma Pizza Dough In A Kitchen Aid Mixer" for the steps.

            Reply
    4. Peter Balmat

      January 17, 2022 at 12:22 pm

      Hi Jim, I am making your pizza dough recipe.
      Thank you for the instructions.
      Looking forward to eating it after the fermentation is done.

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 19, 2022 at 8:41 am

        Hi Peter. Hope it turns out great for you!

        Reply
    5. kevin geraghty

      January 29, 2022 at 7:05 am

      been watching ton of your vids on you tube purchased a number of recommended products on amazon question is just purchased electric pizza oven that can reach temperatures upwards of 700 with heat from top and bottom any temperature recomdations for yout recipes
      Thanks

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 31, 2022 at 8:49 am

        Hi Kevin. I'm assuming your electric pizza oven only has one level? If so, you might need to use a lower temp. Let me know how it works out for you.

        Reply
    6. kevin geraghty

      January 30, 2022 at 4:07 pm

      5 stars
      Jim found your channel as i was laid up in hospital recently watched a ton of you tube vids and spent a boat load on money on Amazon on new gear still on the mend but excited to get started just wanted to say thanks got me threw some tough times Thanks Kevin Geraghty

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 31, 2022 at 9:10 am

        Hey Kevin. I'm glad the videos got you through your hospital stay. I hope you enjoy this and all our other recipes!

        Reply
    7. Patrick

      February 04, 2022 at 3:19 pm

      5 stars
      Hello Jim, Thank you for your excellent videos on making pizza; you're really very good at explaining methods and that's been very educational for me. One question, Jim: I've heard via a couple of pizza experts that one shouldn't mix salt with yeast right off the bat as this action will kill the yeast and henceforth inhibit the rising process. I did your grandma dough last evening and all dry ingredients are incorporated from the get-go. Your thoughts, please? Thank you once again, Jim! Patrick

      Reply
      • Jim

        February 04, 2022 at 4:23 pm

        Hey Patrick. Thanks for liking the videos. You can google salt with instant dry yeast and you will find a lot of info on the subject. Suffice it to say Instant dry yeast, especially at the levels we are using in this recipe doesn't degrade the yeast at all. This is a quote from PMQ (pizza marker's quarterly) with Tom Lehmann who is one of the most recognized experts on pizza making. "When using a product like instant dry yeast (IDY), there is no problem in allowing the IDY to come into direct contact with the salt or sugar, even for extended periods of time, as long as all of the ingredients are dry. This works so well that it is a common practice in making “goodie bags,” as well as complete pizza dough mixes." Instant dry yeast is great and I recommend using it for all your pizza-making needs. If using another type of yeast you should mix the salt in last. Hope that helps.

        Reply
    8. JP

      February 27, 2022 at 11:11 am

      If I wanted to add pepperoni to the top, should I add them at the beginning or would they get to browned/blacked by the time the pizza is done? Or would I add them halfway through approx.?? Thanks for the recipe!

      Reply
      • Jim

        February 27, 2022 at 11:54 am

        Hi JP. You can spread the pepperoni right from the outset provided you use cupping pepperoni (not sandwich style pepperoni) and slice the pieces about 1/16 to 1/8" thick. For this size pizza, you will need about 10-12 ounces of cupping pepperoni. I used Boar's Head natural casing pepperoni when I made it on YouTube. Here is the Grandma pepperoni video: https://youtu.be/QzBW6VoWNgU

        Reply
    9. Jason W

      March 08, 2022 at 10:44 am

      5 stars
      Jim
      I make this pizza dough once a week for my family. Just letting you know that the recipe is fantastic and it’s something my family looks forward to.
      Glad to see your YT viewership increasing - you’re one of my favorite chefs on there to watch.

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 08, 2022 at 11:21 am

        Hi Jason. Happy to hear that your family likes it just as much as mine does. Thanks for watching my videos and trying the recipes.

        Reply
    10. Alessio (Alex) Garcia

      March 12, 2022 at 10:08 am

      5 stars
      I really like your recipes. I save your recipes (print them)

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 12, 2022 at 10:43 am

        Hi Alex. I'm happy to hear that you're enjoying the recipes. Thanks for the comment.

        Reply
    11. Alessio (Alex) Garcia

      March 12, 2022 at 10:10 am

      5 stars
      I am a pizza maker

      Reply
    12. Liz

      March 13, 2022 at 8:11 pm

      5 stars
      Hi Jim,
      I moved away from Hicksville almost 14 years ago and haven’t been able to have a grandma pie since! I just made this recipe and it was fantastic. Flavors and crisp of the crust was perfect. If I wanted to get the crust *super* thin (almost sunken), would I decrease the proving time? Or cut off some of the dough?
      Thank you so much for the recipe and the video!

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 15, 2022 at 1:11 pm

        Hi Liz. Glad you enjoyed it. You can try to roll it out and fit it in the pan right away. Since we are waiting 45 minutes between stretching the dough is indeed rising a bit. Most pizzerias will run the dough through a "sheeter" machine to fit it right away and get the order ready in the required time. Thanks for liking the recipes and videos!

        Reply
    13. Scott G.

      March 14, 2022 at 8:22 pm

      5 stars
      Outstanding

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 15, 2022 at 1:14 pm

        Thanks very much, Scott!

        Reply
    14. Carl

      April 02, 2022 at 10:25 pm

      5 stars
      Made this today. Used my Kitchenaid stand mixer to mix and kneed the dough. Easy peazy. Since I baked it the same day I made the dough, I doubled the amount of yeast. Added 12 slices of Boars Head sandwich pepperoni on top. Used a shiny aluminum half sheet pan to bake it, so left it on the lowest rack for the entire time to get a nicely browned bottom crust. Family loved it.

      This is the third Sip and Feast pizza recipe I've made. They were all great.

      Reply
      • Jim

        April 04, 2022 at 10:42 am

        Hey, Carl. Thanks for the comment on oven placement. It's so hard to tell people that they need to check and adjust times for their own oven. My oven would burn the pizza on the bottom rack past 10-12 minutes or so, but some ovens like yours need the whole time. Glad it was a hit and that I'm 3/3. Looking forward to hearing how the next one goes!

        Reply
    15. Pamela Carnemolla-Dihmes

      May 13, 2022 at 8:26 pm

      5 stars
      Best pizza I’ve ever made!!!!

      Reply
      • Jim

        May 14, 2022 at 8:17 pm

        Thank you, Pamela! I'm so happy you liked this recipe!

        Reply
    16. Linda Miller

      May 28, 2022 at 5:57 am

      5 stars
      Hi Jim! I made this last night and my family says its the best pizza they’ve ever had! Love your step by step directions. Now i just have to figure out what to make next from your recipes!

      Thanks

      Reply
      • Jim

        May 29, 2022 at 1:07 pm

        Hi Linda, thank you so much for letting me know! I'm so happy you and your family enjoyed the pizza!

        Reply
    17. Robert

      August 06, 2022 at 8:56 am

      I always love making this in the summer so I can make fresh tomato confit sauce. I always end up with extra oil in even after it’s rested. Is this common?

      Reply
      • Jim

        August 08, 2022 at 10:21 am

        Hi Robert, you can back off on the oil a little if it's too much for you but having a little extra oil is common.

        Reply
    18. Frank DiTullio

      August 15, 2022 at 6:51 pm

      5 stars
      Hi Jim,
      I'm a 71-YO retiree (ex-NYer now living in Texas) who just recently discovered your YouTube videos. Wow. They really brought home some great memories of my Italian "Nanny's" cooking. I have tried your Sunday Sauce with Sausage and Meatballs (and Porkchops!) and just today I tried your Grandma's Pizza recipe. Both are superb. My wife says those are now her all-time favorite meatballs. For the pizza I ordered a 16x12 Lloyd's Pan and the Calabrian Hot Chile Sauce. Everything turned out great. You provide really helpful tips/expectations (ex. it did indeed take me twice to stretch the dough into the Lloyd's Pan....after the first try I let it rest for 30 minutes and then it "fit" perfectly. And, tucking the cheese slices into the corners was a brilliant suggestion. That really helped keep the dough corners from shrinking back). Anyway, I've taken enough of your time. Just wanted to reach out and THANK YOU for the great recipes, advice and the strolls down memory lane. All the best!

      Reply
      • Jim

        August 16, 2022 at 10:45 am

        Hey Frank! It's great to hear that you're enjoying the recipes and that they are bringing you back. I appreciate you leaving feedback regarding the process. I try my best to put every bit of useful info into my YouTube videos and these print recipes but sometimes I miss certain things. Hearing success stories like your own, lets me know that all the info is there for this recipe, which to many, might seem a bit intimidating. Thanks!

        Reply
    19. Linda

      September 14, 2022 at 4:50 am

      5 stars
      Excellent recipe and instructions. Some cornmeal sprinkled on the pizza pan before baking is a nice touch too.

      Reply
      • Jim

        September 14, 2022 at 5:24 pm

        Thanks, Linda! So happy you liked the recipe!

        Reply
    20. Glenn

      November 06, 2022 at 6:31 pm

      5 stars
      Pizza came out amazing!! Just like I remember having in Long Island years ago!! Thank you!!!

      Reply
      • Jim

        November 06, 2022 at 7:51 pm

        Hi Glen, thanks for the comment and so glad you liked the Grandma pie!

        Reply
    21. Michele

      November 15, 2022 at 6:04 pm

      5 stars
      We are an Italian family originally from Brooklyn - moved to Hawaii several years ago. Came across one of your videos recently and we decided to try the Grandma's Pizza. OMG! The recipe was spot on!!! We've already made it again but doubled the recipe so we could have leftovers. We are so happy to have found you and your recipes. It was more than good food - it brought back memories for all of us. Can't wait to try more of your recipes.

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      • Jim

        November 16, 2022 at 8:31 am

        Hi Michele, thanks for the comment and so happy you liked the grandma pizza recipe!

        Reply
    22. Bogos

      November 16, 2022 at 1:34 pm

      5 stars
      Moved from the east coast to the midwest and found out the hard way that I'd have to be the one to make pizza that lives up to my standards. I wanted to go full sicilian, but this crust seemed easier and it did not disappoint! I made it for my roommates and then used chicken parm and penne vodka as toppings and they said it was the best pizza they had in their lives LOL. I swear by this recipe, thanks so much! I also appreciate when you record them in videos since it is easier for me to follow than printed recipes. God bless

      Reply
      • Jim

        November 17, 2022 at 10:17 am

        Hi there, so happy you liked the grandma pizza recipe and that your roommates enjoyed it as well! Thanks for the comment!

        Reply
    23. Paolo

      December 10, 2022 at 12:11 am

      5 stars
      What a crust!! I took some short cuts. 1. I mixed oil in the water and used honey instead of sugar. 2. I mixed the oil and garlic in the tomatoes so it was just one application. I also used 3 sets of stretch and fold for the kneading (8x every 15min.) and I did a 24 cold ferment. The pizza turned out amazing. Look forward to trying more of your recipes, thanks.

      Reply
      • Jim

        December 11, 2022 at 2:52 pm

        Hi Paolo, I'm so happy you enjoyed the grandma pizza and thanks for the comment!

        Reply
    24. Pamela Carnemolla-Dihmes

      January 06, 2023 at 8:41 am

      Can I freeze this amazing dough?

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 06, 2023 at 11:19 am

        Hi Pamela, you can freeze the dough but only after the cold-ferment is done. Once it's fermented, place the dough on a baking sheet (unwrapped) and freeze until it hardens. Then take the frozen dough, wrap it in plastic wrap, then foil and place in the freezer. I hope that helps!

        Reply
    25. maria innes

      January 13, 2023 at 5:51 pm

      Thank you, thanks for all the details, pizza was a big hit with my family

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 13, 2023 at 8:15 pm

        Hi Maria, so happy you enjoyed it and thanks for the comment!

        Reply
    26. Mark

      January 15, 2023 at 9:55 pm

      5 stars
      This came out perfect, wouldn't change a thing.

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 16, 2023 at 9:29 am

        Hi Mark, thanks for the comment and so happy you enjoyed the grandma pizza.

        Reply
    27. Jeff

      January 16, 2023 at 9:39 pm

      5 stars
      Awesome tutorial...got the Lloyds pan, a fresh moz block from the local Italian joint and this turned out great. Now I don't have to go to NYC anymore. Thank you!!

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 17, 2023 at 12:37 pm

        Hi Jeff, thanks for the review and so happy to hear this was a success for you!

        Reply
    28. Julie

      January 19, 2023 at 11:23 pm

      Hi
      I made your Grandma Pizza recipe last week and everyone loved it. Today I doubled the recipe and this time made it in the kitchen aid…. I just realized I never added the olive used in the recipe. Do you think it will be ok?
      I just want to tell you your recipes are all just wonderful. Thank you for sharing!

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 20, 2023 at 8:29 am

        Hi Julie, so happy you liked the grandma pizza and are making it again! If you're talking about the olive oil for the dough, that's not a big deal and you should still have a good outcome. Just be sure to use the olive oil for the sheet pan when you're cooking the pizza because that's essential.

        Reply
    29. Lynda Leonard

      January 22, 2023 at 4:06 pm

      Turned out great. I used my Kitchenaide with dough hook. Left in the refrigerator 72 hrs.

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 23, 2023 at 10:50 am

        Hi Lynda, so happy you enjoyed this one and appreciate the comment!

        Reply
    30. Lynda Leonard

      January 24, 2023 at 7:45 pm

      5 stars
      Loved Grandma Pizza turned out perfect. Would like to buy only one Lloyd pan for NY and Grandma. Would you recommend 12 x 16 or 14sq?

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 25, 2023 at 10:35 am

        Hi Lynda, for Granma pizza I use the 16x12 pan. For Sicilian pizza, I use the 14x14. Both pans are in the shop that's linked on this website. Thanks for the comment and so happy you enjoyed the grandma pizza!

        Reply
    31. Lucas

      January 26, 2023 at 11:00 pm

      I'm making this for the 5th time now. It has become our family recipe. That's pretty important if you ask me. Thank you for all of the tips and tricks.

      Reply
      • Jim

        January 27, 2023 at 10:32 am

        Hi Lucas, thanks for the comment and so happy you've been enjoying it!

        Reply
    32. Lynda Leonard

      February 08, 2023 at 4:18 pm

      5 stars
      I made Grandma Pizza 3 times now. Always get great reviews. Dough is so easy by 2nd time I did from memory.

      Reply
      • Jim

        February 08, 2023 at 8:15 pm

        Hi Lynda, so happy you enjoyed the grandma recipe and really appreciate the comment!

        Reply
    33. Den M.

      February 08, 2023 at 8:55 pm

      JIm, not clear as to why you use regular oil and not evoo. Is it due to the volume of oil used, would evoo be too taste forward. Just want to understand this. I have been making your sicilian pie but this one uses more oil so proper product will affect the taste. Thank you.

      Reply
      • Jim

        February 09, 2023 at 10:05 am

        Hi Den, EVOO will be too taste forward for Grandma pizza and could be overwhelming. Most pizzerias don't use it although there's probably a few that do.

        Reply
    34. Den M.

      February 09, 2023 at 7:47 pm

      Jim, your Sicilian pizza has a "built in" holding period, ie. the sauce prebake step can be done, the pie refrigerated, then cheese, sauce and finish baking. Does this Grandma pie have a step to pause? Maybe after dough is stretched, put in refrigerator until ready to finish, bring to room temp first, top with cheese, sauce and bake.. Or, would it be better to just finish the pie, let it sit at room temp a few hours, then reheat for company? What do you recommend?

      Reply
    35. Karen Lamela

      February 11, 2023 at 7:37 am

      Hi, I have an 18 x 18 square pan, how much dough would I need for this size pan?

      Reply
    36. Karen Lamela

      February 11, 2023 at 7:39 am

      Sorry 16 x 16 from the comment above. Love this dough!!!! Bought the bigger pan because it’s sooo good!

      Reply
      • Jim

        February 11, 2023 at 9:21 am

        Hi Karen, typically Grandma pizza uses a rectangular pan and the recipe was written for a 16x12 pan and using a 24-ounce dough ball. For a 16x16 pan, you'd need to increase the amount of dough to 32 ounces. So happy you like the recipe!

        Reply
    37. Gina

      March 01, 2023 at 7:17 am

      Hi Jim,
      Love your recipes! Thanks so much! Just a quick question... have you ever tried Crisco on the pan rather than olive oil? I was taught by my Italian Nonna's that the Crisco holds the dough in place while the olive oil causes it to spring back. I use Crisco and it's so much easier.
      Also thanks for your pan recommendations! I bought the Grandma pan and the Sicilian! Love them!!

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 01, 2023 at 9:23 am

        Hi Gina, yes, Crisco works well! My grandma always used it too. So happy you are enjoying the pans!

        Reply
    38. Patrick

      March 03, 2023 at 8:24 am

      Question on the timing. As I understand it could take as much as 3.5 hours from when you take it out of the fridge after the proof to when you put it in the oven. 2 hours to warm up; 45 mins for first stretch; then 45 mins until your next stretch. Do I have that right?

      If so, what should you do if you plan for that time but the first stretch does the trick? Keep out of the fridge on the counter covered in wrap? Or cover and back in the fridge until ready to cook? That extra 45 mins can mess up timing of other things.

      Love your site and thanks for the amazing ideas!

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 03, 2023 at 4:10 pm

        Hi Patrick, You normally need a few stretch attempts but if you are successful after the first attempt, you can bake it right away or cover it and wait. Nothing wrong will happen if you let it sit out. Typically the dough will get easier to stretch as it warms up. There will always be a variance based on the seasons you make your pizza with the summertime being far quicker.

        Reply
    39. Frank

      March 04, 2023 at 10:10 am

      5 stars
      Jim I’ve been trying to find a pizza recipe for ages . This one hit it out of the park. My question if I want to freeze the dough should I let it ferment and then freeze it or just go directly in the dresser. Thanks again for a great dough.

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 04, 2023 at 10:28 am

        Hi Frank, I'm so happy you liked the recipe! Freeze the dough after the cold-ferment is done. Once it's fermented, place the dough on a baking sheet (unwrapped) and freeze until it hardens. Then take the frozen dough, wrap it in plastic wrap, then foil and place in the freezer. I hope that helps!

        Reply
    40. Patrick

      March 05, 2023 at 5:21 pm

      5 stars
      This was literally perfect. It was better than any grandma pie I’ve ever had living in Strong Island for 30 years.

      Next up is the Sicilian!

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 05, 2023 at 6:22 pm

        Hi Patrick, so happy to hear you enjoyed the grandma pie! Let us know how the Sicilian turns out for you!

        Reply
    41. Cathy P.

      March 07, 2023 at 6:20 pm

      Hi Jim,
      Going to make this Grandma pizza and want to know if you have any suggestions for using Italian sausage as a topping?

      Thanks!!

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 08, 2023 at 10:32 am

        Hi Cathy, I'd recommend watching my YouTube video titled "meat lover's pizza" for suggestions on using sausage. I don't have this recipe on my website, just on YouTube.

        Reply
    42. Donna

      March 21, 2023 at 12:01 pm

      5 stars
      My pizza dough is precisely like yours, and I discovered cold-fermenting a couple of years ago, and it really makes a huge difference! But, not heating the tomatoes and making that garlic oil is something I had not tried. Delicious!

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 21, 2023 at 2:14 pm

        Hi Donna, I'm so happy to hear you enjoyed the recipe and really appreciate your comment and review!

        Reply
    43. Steven

      March 26, 2023 at 2:42 pm

      Hi

      Can this be adjusted to a same day pizza recipe?

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 26, 2023 at 8:57 pm

        Hi Steven, you can but it's not going to have the same flavor. If you want to research further, you can do a poolish, but even that has a minimum of 4 hours.

        Reply
    44. Peter

      March 28, 2023 at 1:25 pm

      5 stars
      I followed the recipe to the letter and this is by far my favourite sheet pan pizza. Do not skip the garlic oil drizzle because it makes this pizza something special. I love sauce on top of cheese!

      Reply
      • Jim

        March 29, 2023 at 10:36 am

        Hi Peter, thanks for the comment and so happy you enjoyed! Thanks for calling out the garlic oil, because I agree that it is special!

        Reply

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